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We quickly approach the third round of the first-ever 2013 Endurance Championship, with our second-annual Bathurst 1000!

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efnetsimracing continues its string of epic annual Special Events, this time with a visit to the legendary Mt. Panorama Circuit at Bathurst, for the Labour Day 1000 Classic!

We'll be using the updated version of TCL, called "Touring Masters." This version (unfortunately) removes the AE86 Toyota, but (fortunately) cleans up the mod completely, gets rid of a lot of the bad glitches, and equalizes the vehicles in a sort of League Edition. While some cars still enjoy a small top speed advantage, they're usually relatively poor handling or braking (Mustang, Commodore), so it balances out and should be fun.

Register on the forum and reply in the Driver Classification Thread with your car selection. We would like to avoid double cars. Drivers already competing in the Monday WTCC Series, of which this is a round of, must remain with their current cars. Points will be given toward the 2013 ESR Endurance Racing Championship, as well as the WTCC Revival Series.

Skins will be permitted, and will be compiled with the current WTCC series skins. Deadline for posting skins will be the Saturday before the race, August 31st.

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The race will be 50 Laps, with 1x Tire and 1x Fuel. Most of the cars are in the 35-36 Lap range on fuel, so at least one stop for fuel will be required. Tire strategy will of course play a role, as you can switch from Hards to Mediums to Softs, so be sure to practice!

The cars can work with realfeel, but they weren't designed for it. The feel is a bit vague but the physics are great, the models are great and the sounds are awesome. They drive sideways pretty well.

Ford Mustang
Holden Commodore VL
Nissan Skyline R32
Toyota Supra Turbo
Ford Sierra RS500
Mercedes 190E
BMW E30 M3
BMW M635csi
Volvo 240 Turbo
Rover Vitesse
Alfa Romeo 155 Turbo


We'll be using ESR's patched version of ORSM's Bathurst 2006. This patch is to make the sand traps slightly less deadly, and is MANDATORY to participate! Downloads are posted in the race thread.

Spread the word--this is an Invitational, come one, come all, it should be a blast!

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Is this the same version of the mod we ran last year or do I need to download it again?

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Be careful boys.
My first stop after downloading the Touring Masters mod to try, was to rFactor Central, in order to hunt up some skin templates.
When I got there, my browser was automatically routed (did not click anything) to a web page that outlined accusations that my computer has been used for sending spam, accessing restricted data protected by state, and possession of child pornography. There was more as well, but these were the largest descriptions with the most detail.

Apparently, I'm a bad man.

Interestingly enough, the crimes I am accused of, can be assumed to be of an ignorant nature, and that it may have been other parties that used my access to commit these offenses. I can alleviate these charges by taking steps to close the hole in my security, and pay a fine of $100 bucks. I have 48 hours to comply or, the hammer will come down for sure.

Now. The ol' PC I pieced together is only for racing. Normally all my business is conducted on a Mac Mini that Cam gave to me. I don't do anything else with it, so the fact that it's locked up solid only effects my racing.

With that being said. This is SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTING MY RACING!

BAH!

It seems to be a maximized window that I can't close. Cannot move from that page until I pay up. Does not respond to Hotkey commands.
Now, I admit, I have no software on that computer against virus' or malware in general. I don't need it. Stay away from foolishness that might hide something of that nature, and don't click anything i shouldn't. Never have an issue.

Disconnected that machine from internet access and leaving it be for now, until I can find out more.
Any insight that anyone might have to help would be appreciated.


Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:49 am
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Bummer. Sorry to hear that. I would reinstall Windows and effectively reformat the hard drive, but that's just me. You have a Windows install CD?


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Just went looking and found the culprits.

Still, I just got onto rFactor Central when it happened. So something funny is going on there.


Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:01 pm
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This is the second time that I know of that that RFC had malicious code dropped into their web page. It took them a long time to fix it the first time. That's partly why I let my susbscription there lapse.

Most people were lucky enough that the browser was blocking the redirect... Tim, it seems wasn't so lucky.

I know you're trying to keep that PC clean, Tim but the combination of Firefox, AdBlock Plus plug-in and MS Security Essentials (all of that is free) will largely protect you. In fact, that combo is better than the expensive corporate Symantec software we have at work. LOL. I go to some pretty shady corners of the internet without any issues and the RFC thing was blocked effectively.


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This sounds like one of a bazillion variants of Java malware out there. (Java is not JavaScript by the way; do not confuse the two, they have little in common)

Do not pay any money, it's a scam.

If you have a restore point on the machine you're best to go back in time to before it happened.

Change your browser as soon as you get it cleared up. I've had good luck with Chrome.

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Hello everybody, I'm Frank from Italy, found this site from NoGrip and got interested in this race that was advertised there.

I would like to partecipate, but I have a couple of questions. Is there any server already up for testing or it will be available later this month? Also, I noticed this is an american site (Correct me if I'm wrong, I just surfed a bit around), so I'm in GMT +1. I would like to know the exact local time you will race, in order to organize myself from the other side of the world and be there with you.

In the end, hope I'll be able to join you, looks like a nice site you have here. See you on track.

Best regards, Frank.


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Welcome Frank. You can use http://www.timeanddate.com/ to figure out when the race will start in your area. Normally, times here are listed in Eastern time zone. We have a few Europeans that race with us.

Qualifying starts at 8:30 pm Eastern time, September 1.

For example (I don't know where in Italy you live):
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Toronto (Canada - Ontario) Sunday, September 1, 2013 at 8:30:00 PM EDT  UTC-4 hours
Rome (Italy)               Monday, September 2, 2013 at 2:30:00 AM CEST UTC+2 hours
Corresponding UTC (GMT)    Monday, September 2, 2013 at 00:30:00


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Well, the good news is, is that I wasn't carted off for half a dozen criminal charges that were levied against me, and I didn't even pay the fine. HA. They'll never catch me!

The better news is that I stripped the bad stuff off the ol' PC, cleaned up me registry and am ready to roll once again.

The best news is that ice cream is on sale this week at my local grocer.


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ChaosZero wrote:
Hello everybody, I'm Frank from Italy, found this site from NoGrip and got interested in this race that was advertised there.

I would like to partecipate, but I have a couple of questions. Is there any server already up for testing or it will be available later this month? Also, I noticed this is an american site (Correct me if I'm wrong, I just surfed a bit around), so I'm in GMT +1. I would like to know the exact local time you will race, in order to organize myself from the other side of the world and be there with you.

In the end, hope I'll be able to join you, looks like a nice site you have here. See you on track.

Best regards, Frank.


Welcome. We currently race this mod on Mondays in the WTCC series. Bathurst (on a Sunday mind you) will also be a round of that series. You're welcome to get into the groove by running those Monday night races. We will have our main server up for Bathurst practice the entire week leading up to the race.

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Tim Porter wrote:
Well, the good news is, is that I wasn't carted off for half a dozen criminal charges that were levied against me, and I didn't even pay the fine. HA. They'll never catch me!

The better news is that I stripped the bad stuff off the ol' PC, cleaned up me registry and am ready to roll once again.

The best news is that ice cream is on sale this week at my local grocer.


Did you also save a bunch of money on your car insurance by switching to... uh... hmm.


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Im looking forward to my first event in a Sunday here at Efnet. ;)

Quick question.

As this is a Special event...and at the same time, part of the WTCC Series, the Weights that will be in place for the guys racing regulary the Series will be in place for this event?
To me sounds a bit weird have to carry weight for this event, as the crowd will be significantly bigger for this race.


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I think I'll leave that up to Caleb. I personally think no, take all the weights off, since some of the Monday drivers are also competing for the 2013 Endurance Championship as well.

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No weight penalties for this one.

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So I didn't want to get all the way to this years race w/o blowing the dust off the movie I started of last year's event. :oops: So I finally did my best to wrap it up. Thing is it came in at 17min long and someone really didn't like the last FIM race I uploaded to my youtube acct. and hence I'm on yet another "probation" where I'm limited to 15min max uploads. I'll post it in the video thread when I get my large upload privileges back but until then, if you'd like to check it out I uploaded smaller bitrate ver. (1.3gb .wmv) that you can download HERE .

The sound and music is cranked on this one. Enjoy it! ;)


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The sound and music is cranked on this one. Enjoy it! ;)


Gonna be a bit for enjoyment,comin' in at 104kb :(

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7 hours estimated download here :cry:

If you let, me, Doug, I'll upload and link to my Google Drive sometime tomorrow after I let it download overnight :lol:

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That sux... freehosting and all but hey Tom, thanks for alerting me to the Google cloud as it were. Didn't even realize there was some free space to take advantage of there, 15gb worth apparently so I'll just go ahead do that myself after the race tonight with the better quality version.


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Thanks Doug!

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Server is up. Any mismatches or issues, let me know ASAP. As always, this is our sand-trap PATCHED version of Bathurst 2006.

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D Newman wrote:
That sux... freehosting and all but hey Tom, thanks for alerting me to the Google cloud as it were. Didn't even realize there was some free space to take advantage of there, 15gb worth apparently so I'll just go ahead do that myself after the race tonight with the better quality version.


Glad to help, people should be able to watch it after all the time that you put in. Looking forward to it myself.

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Alright let's see how this works... here's a few choices depending how big you want to go:

1280x720 .mp4 @ 9000kbps 1gb

1920x1080 .wmv @ 10000 kbps 1.5gb

1920x1080 .m2ts @ 16000 kbps 2.4gb

1920x1080 .m2ts @ 25000 kbps 3.2gb


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Wow, great work there with video editing... I didn't see this video before...
Some intense battling in that race

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That, was the best Jerry, the best.
I was enthralled.


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A small error in TCL's rfm was spotted by Ken Tarvin yesterday that causes various issues with HUD mods, particularly rfDynHUD. I have now updated the server with this fix, so Bathurst as it currently sits will require it. Obviously, it will also be necessary for all Monday races moving forward. THIS PATCH IS MANDATORY TO PARTICIPATE!!!

Just extract this into your rfactor\rfm folder, and overwrite the old RDTCL.rfm.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/l7qxgpl66t45yzo/RDTCL.rar
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28118982/RDTCL.rar

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AWESOME video Reynard. As a retired video editor I know how much work that is. (nice lower third graphics btw) GREAT JOB!


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I'm off to Mosport for the weekend! Any admin questions can be directed to Caleb. Server is currently set for Race. I HOPE to be home in time to run it, but I've heard NASCAR traffic can be a nightmare... :?

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I finally got this mod loaded and was trying to get onto the server but it kept timing out on me. I used 66.225.198.82:34597 for the ip address but when i entered the password of efnet it would time out. I could see there were 3 people on the server and was just wondering what the problem might be.
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I'm off to Mosport for the weekend! Any admin questions can be directed to Caleb. Server is currently set for Race. I HOPE to be home in time to run it, but I've heard NASCAR traffic can be a nightmare... :?


HAVE FUN TIGERAID! :mrgreen:

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I finally got this mod loaded and was trying to get onto the server but it kept timing out on me. I used 66.225.198.82:34597 for the ip address but when i entered the password of efnet it would time out. I could see there were 3 people on the server and was just wondering what the problem might be.
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PM John Culbert or/and Caleb Marklein for the details about the correct server Password, Jimmy.


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Thanks AngeloDS, I will shoot him a PM now. I am hoping to make this event but I can't fully commit just yet.

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AWESOME video Reynard. As a retired video editor I know how much work that is. (nice lower third graphics btw) GREAT JOB!


Glad you liked it, not my best work but I'm reasonably satisfied. However I can't take credit for the graphic as it's one that just comes with the software I have, it's just the lettering I'm responsible for.


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Will this be a rolling start? My poor Volvo will not launch AT ALL!! :oops:

If not I want to start at the back of the grid. Otherwise there will be a pileup behind me. 8-)

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Pretty sure it's a standing start Dan :?

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Will this be a rolling start? My poor Volvo will not launch AT ALL!! :oops:

If not I want to start at the back of the grid. Otherwise there will be a pileup behind me. 8-)


Not to worry, I'm fairly sure with the long gearing, we all might have to get out and push to get started.

(And then wait patiently until the Ford's all wreck themselves out of the race)

Also. Before the fast right-hander on the last straight (called The Chase) isn't the best place to make a pass. Side by side into that thing is a bad idea. If you're fast (looking at you Ford drivers) then make sure you can make the pass with plenty of room, or wait until after the turn to make your move. In practice I've experienced plenty of drivers who try to pull alongside into that corner....let's just say on race day I might not be as accommodating to that move. ;)


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BTW: Has anyone watched the actual race? I never had, so I went and looked for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNDlbLpsb0g

is the official broadcast of it. Pretty cool stuff. The only points I deduct is they use a relief driver. But man those cars are fast and hard to believe they race this hard course with the V8 cars.


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Ken Tarvin wrote:
Not to worry, I'm fairly sure with the long gearing, we all might have to get out and push to get started.

:idea: Great Idea. Why didn't I think of that? :P

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(And then wait patiently until the Ford's all wreck themselves out of the race)

And now you also have my race plan? Guess we will finish together!

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Also. Before the fast right-hander on the last straight (called The Chase) isn't the best place to make a pass. Side by side into that thing is a bad idea. If you're fast (looking at you Ford drivers) then make sure you can make the pass with plenty of room, or wait until after the turn to make your move. In practice I've experienced plenty of drivers who try to pull alongside into that corner....let's just say on race day I might not be as accommodating to that move. ;)

No kidding. The Mustangs also get past then brake earlier in front of you. If you time it right you can out brake them and zip past or just wait for them to run off the corner long. Luckily The Chase is sort of self-cleaning.

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No kidding. The Mustangs also get past then brake earlier in front of you.


I was going to mention this as well. I had some guy pass me at the last second going into The Chase, pull in front of me, and then brake early. I was anticipating this, so I modified my brake point, but it certainly would've been tempting to put a little bumper tap in there. There's a nice long runoff there for those drivers who think it's fine to make this kind of a move.


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I would like to put out a special thanks to Brian Potvin and Pavel Yailo...

After hours of testing this mods cars I nailed a 2:38 (don't laugh, I know your faster) with the Supra, and it seemed to be the easiest to handle for me. I was fairly proud considering it was the first time in the car but the other day I was discussing the ride. I described these cars as twitchy and hard to handle, that there was no natural steering center like in my NAGT ride. Brian and Pavel suggested that the force feedback might have been reversed. Later on I used the hot keys they told me about, and HOLY SHIT...!!! It felt so much better that I felt like goin balls out, wound up spinning out, but still shaved a second off my first timed lap.

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Just a hint-are you shutting off your rev limiter (L button default) after leaving pit road?

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Ken Tarvin wrote:
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No kidding. The Mustangs also get past then brake earlier in front of you.


I was going to mention this as well. I had some guy pass me at the last second going into The Chase, pull in front of me, and then brake early. I was anticipating this, so I modified my brake point, but it certainly would've been tempting to put a little bumper tap in there. There's a nice long runoff there for those drivers who think it's fine to make this kind of a move.



Try to see both sides here fella's, that's part of racing. If I can get by I WILL. I'm not doing it to put you out, it's ONE OF THE ONLY PLACES WE CAN PASS. If you were in the faster car would you really let off on the only part of the track where you have an advantage? It's no more comfortable for you guys trying inside outbraking moves EVERYWHERE else. I doubt we're gonna rewrite the "RULES OF THE ROAD" for this race. The car in front has the line, by an inch or a mile. I may well have to let off in the corners when you guys come in 50 mph hotter, just as you may if you get passed by the same 50 mph on the straight. Once you've (or I've) been passed ANYWHERE, it's on you (or me) not to plow the car in front of you (or me). I'm NOT gonna concede in corners and then have ANYONE thinking I'm not going around on the straights!


I WILL GLADLY TRY MY DAMNEDEST TO LEAVE ANY POSSIBLE ROOM IN THIS SITUATION, AND WOULD APPRECIATE THE SAME IN CORNERS FROM THE NIMBLE CARS!!!


It will require a little give-and take IMO on all our parts to keep us on the track for a couple of hours. ;)


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Ken Tarvin wrote:
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No kidding. The Mustangs also get past then brake earlier in front of you.


I was going to mention this as well. I had some guy pass me at the last second going into The Chase, pull in front of me, and then brake early. I was anticipating this, so I modified my brake point, but it certainly would've been tempting to put a little bumper tap in there. There's a nice long runoff there for those drivers who think it's fine to make this kind of a move.


WHOA, whoa. Whats wrong with this kind of move? If I can get in front of you before a breaking point, it's my corner, and I can therefore break where I need to. You can either follow, or try to out-break me on the side, but bumping someone off onto the runoff and potentially into the quicksand should not be something you consider. That's pure bullshit.

Unrelatedly, the people driving the BMWs think that just because they can out-break the Mustang before the turn-in, they can take the inside line through the corners. I anticipate this of course, (because it is a legitimate racing tactic,) but it would be tempting to put a little side-tap in there. There is plenty of grass to spin out in, and sand to get stuck in for people who like piss me off by passing me.


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Those last two posts are way more diplomatic than what I was thinking. :lol:

You should consider that many of us have 5 close, clean races under our belts with these cars benefit of the Monday evening WTCC and, I for one, will normally sooner run myself off the track than ruin someone else's race from impact.

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Ken Tarvin wrote:
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No kidding. The Mustangs also get past then brake earlier in front of you.


I was going to mention this as well. I had some guy pass me at the last second going into The Chase, pull in front of me, and then brake early. I was anticipating this, so I modified my brake point, but it certainly would've been tempting to put a little bumper tap in there. There's a nice long runoff there for those drivers who think it's fine to make this kind of a move.


The inverse of this I used to hear from the muscle car drivers while in a momentum car is "that's just stupid challenging on a turn leading to a straight, I'm just going to re-pass". You have to take the advantage a car gives you. I can cut a gap by a few tenths passing early on the exit to a straight (or at least pulling along-side) in a momentum car vs. just following the faster car. Those few tenths might be the difference between being eternally stuck to someone's bumper and closing the deal, later in the lap.

Sherman made a move going into Griffins last night while we were running some group practice. I slow a little early there and take a late apex to try to rocket out. My immediate impulse (over the mic even) was "really?!" I'll be damned if he didn't practically make it stick. If he had cleared it, should I say "he cut off the fast exit I planned, I should give him a punt!" No, it's racing. And I'd have tipped my hat for bold but clean move I didn't think had a chance in hell, while I'm at it.

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WHOA, whoa. Whats wrong with this kind of move? If I can get in front of you before a breaking point, it's my corner, and I can therefore break where I need to. You can either follow, or try to out-break me on the side, but bumping someone off onto the runoff and potentially into the quicksand should not be something you consider. That's pure bullshit.


My point is it's a dangerous and tight point on the racetrack. I watched the real race and this pass seemed to never be made. The faster car waited and tried to outbrake after The Chase going into the next corner. Trying to force a pass going into The Chase, (and please note, I'm talking about going into that corner) is just way dangerous. Sure, you guys in the fast cars are certainly going to do all your passing on the long straights, but if you can't get safely by before, trying to force a pass going into that corner is not the best place on the track to pass.


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WHOA, whoa. Whats wrong with this kind of move? If I can get in front of you before a breaking point, it's my corner, and I can therefore break where I need to. You can either follow, or try to out-break me on the side, but bumping someone off onto the runoff and potentially into the quicksand should not be something you consider. That's pure bullshit.


My point is it's a dangerous and tight point on the racetrack. I watched the real race and this pass seemed to never be made. The faster car waited and tried to outbrake after The Chase going into the next corner. Trying to force a pass going into The Chase, (and please note, I'm talking about going into that corner) is just way dangerous. Sure, you guys in the fast cars are certainly going to do all your passing on the long straights, but if you can't get safely by before, trying to force a pass going into that corner is not the best place on the track to pass.


I see your point, and agree that a pass like that is not worth the risk. However, I don't think vengefully bumping people off track is an idea that you should entertain.


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Ken Tarvin wrote:
Dan Minges wrote:
No kidding. The Mustangs also get past then brake earlier in front of you.


I was going to mention this as well. I had some guy pass me at the last second going into The Chase, pull in front of me, and then brake early. I was anticipating this, so I modified my brake point, but it certainly would've been tempting to put a little bumper tap in there. There's a nice long runoff there for those drivers who think it's fine to make this kind of a move.


The inverse of this I used to hear from the muscle car drivers while in a momentum car is "that's just stupid challenging on a turn leading to a straight, I'm just going to re-pass". You have to take the advantage a car gives you. I can cut a gap by a few tenths passing early on the exit to a straight (or at least pulling along-side) in a momentum car vs. just following the faster car. Those few tenths might be the difference between being eternally stuck to someone's bumper and closing the deal, later in the lap.

Sherman made a move going into Griffins last night while we were running some group practice. I slow a little early there and take a late apex to try to rocket out. My immediate impulse (over the mic even) was "really?!" I'll be damned if he didn't practically make it stick. If he had cleared it, should I say "he cut off the fast exit I planned, I should give him a punt!" No, it's racing. And I'd have tipped my hat for bold but clean move I didn't think had a chance in hell, while I'm at it.

This was after a comment a few seconds earlier "there is NO way you can pass up on the mountian." :lol:
Face it-if you ain't in a Mustang or Skyline, thats gonna be the ONLY place you can pass. I'll keep to the left on the straights... :cry:

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I see your point, and agree that a pass like that is not worth the risk. However, I don't think vengefully bumping people off track is an idea that you should entertain.


Yeah, I need to use smilies to show I'm not overly serious. The internet(and I) is bad at relaying veiled sarcasm.


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Well.
I've been looking at the times and see that I am way behind. I mean way.
A bit extra handling in the Alfa over the mountain just isn't going to cut it.
Sure, my tires last , and mileage is great, but any perceived advantage is negligible in the overall race.
I'll be lapped by the 12th lap.
Just not fast enough to keep up or give challenge.
Since this is not part of the regular HGT series, I have decided to race anyway.
Screw you all, I'm gonna win!


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...I have decided to race anyway.
Screw you all, I'm gonna win!


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...I have decided to race anyway.
Screw you all, I'm gonna win!


+1

My plan is to race till theres 10 cars left-or i need to pee really bad-whichever comes first. :P

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Honestly though Ken, most of the guys here are pretty good and gauging risk/reward. Practice sessions are sometimes the time to get a little bonzai to see what you can pull off and what you can't :). But this is a long race and a move like you're talking about sure wouldn't be my first go-to move, personally. You wouldn't slow me through the chase and there's better opportunities coming up. But if I search in vain for an opening for a half dozen laps while fighting for position late in a race and it presents itself... well... :D.

Once the early dust settles, besides some pockets of battling, it should be mostly racing the track out there anyway.

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Pit speed limit enforced for race?

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Pit speed limit enforced for race?


Should be no limit in the pits. So long as the server was set that way :? . Anybody tested it?

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While the Commodore is fast on the straights, over the mountain, I'll probably be holden everyone up.













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Oy Vay! :P

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Oh sh*t! Btw, I won't be running again tonight. Still problems plus haven't turned one lap yet. Been busy with my Firebird - pics/videos soon to follow. Hey KJ! My car's been painted. :P :P :P ;)

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Mike Campbell wrote:
Oh sh*t! Btw, I won't be running again tonight. Still problems plus haven't turned one lap yet. Been busy with my Firebird - pics/videos soon to follow. Hey KJ! My car's been painted. :P :P :P ;)


c'mon Mike get out here! :lol:

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I would but I'd disconnect the server within 2 laps. :(

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Which is exactly what just happened to me... yay. :x


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That blows Doug. I feel for ya. And that is why I didn't spend one minute practising this week. :?

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